Recently Braggtopia! was contacted by Jane Pooler-Williams (now Jane Billing) who was half of Wobblesox, the girl band that Billy Bragg & Wiggy played with briefly back in 1980 on their Xmas single. The other Wobblesox, Sue Fisher-Hendry, was interviewed by Braggtopia a few years ago, and then…
Jane: My brother typed my
maiden name into a search engine and I was quite amused and flattered really
that my name brought something up…and it was nice to know where Sue was as I
haven’t seen her since about 1983 and I had no idea where she went.
Braggtopia!: So how did you two originally get together?
Jane: We’d known each other
since about 1977 and around 1978, I think, I discovered she could sing so we
got together. We had a mutual friend in Hampstead who had a big Steinway piano
and Sue and I spent a lot of time there writing songs. Originally it started
off that she had loads of lyrics so she asked me to put music to them which I
did. Then gradually as I did that she got more confident herself and began to
write her own tunes. It was about 3 or 4 years that we were writing together,
doing gigs and private stuff and that culminated in our writing a Christmas
song in 1980. We had this very strange idea…
Braggtopia!: The infamous “Get Your Socks Off”.
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Jane: That’s right, it’s a great song (laughs). It was a bit rough and
ready but in the 1980s it was like that. Anything went. We’d got through the
punk era and punk sort of simplified music a bit. It was pretty easy to do
something gimmicky. In fact the charts were full of gimmicky stuff at the
times. So, it would have worked, perhaps, if John Lennon hadn’t died and if we
were a little earlier with our campaign. Braggtopia!: After the interview with Sue I had an email from Jackie
MacKay (an early manager of Billy and promoter of Wobblesox) who said a similar
thing about the death of John Lennon. Jane: Yes, it practically
closed the industry down for a couple of weeks. I know Stiff Records were about
to sign us, they were talking about it… |
Braggtopia!: Did you have any thoughts about re-releasing the record the
next Christmas?
Jane: We may have had those
thoughts but in the scheme of things we were both pretty busy and it probably
just didn’t cross our minds. In 1981 I was back working in the film business. I
was on films like Gandhi and Escape To Victory.
Braggtopia!: What was your job on those films?
Jane: I was the accountant.
That was my straight job and then I was doing odd gigs and things, and I also
met my husband around the same time. So, although Sue and I spent time together
there was a lot going on.
Braggtopia!: So, yourself and Sue had written this Christmas song, but
how did it then involve Jackie MacKay and Billy and Wiggy?
Jane: I’m sure I’d met Wiggy
before. I may have even worked with him as I worked with a whole load of people
in the 70s who went on to become famous but I didn’t know who they were at the
time. We got together with a guy called John Bassett who was a record producer
and he had got us doing a Dennis Waterman song called Ave Maria, which really
didn’t suit us at all. It all evolved from there. Sue did most of the liaising
as she was good at public relations She had the gift of the gab while I
concentrated on the creative side. Anyway, somehow Sue organised things.
I don’t know if you know Suzanne
Horton, she’s an American actress who used to go out with Warren Beatty. She
was hanging around and we played the song to her. She was sitting very demurely
on the sofa and when she heard “Get Your Socks Off” the next second she was on
the floor kicking her legs in the air in hysterics and that set us off. Sue and
I did 15 run throughs with the song before we could sing it without collapsing.
That inspired us and Sue got things together with the Basement Studio in Fulham
and managed to get Riff Raff in, or at least Billy and Wiggy. I was on the
piano.
Braggtopia!: And I gather you wrote the arrangement for the song.
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Jane: Yes. I was the main
musician so I put the thing together. Braggtopia!: Do you have much of a memory of that session 27 years
later? Jane: I do. In fact I’ve got
my Melody Maker diary from 1980 in front of me! Jackie came in and released it
on her Freewave label and we went up to Braggtopia!: Since that time have you recorded anything else? Jane: Oh yes. Loads of stuff. I’ve been back to college and trained as a
jazz musician. I’ve worked with people like Peter Schleff
who wrote “On the wings of love”, David Pomeranz who
has written a lot of stuff for Barry Manilow, and
loads and loads of things. For the past four years I’ve had a band doing stuff
for charity trying to help with things like gun crime. And I’ve just recorded a
classical album for the first time which quite amazes me and I’ve also released
a Latin album. Braggtopia!: And is this all under your own name? Jane: I’m actually calling
myself Jane Vanessa from now on. I’m about to relaunch myself (laughs) – I’m
being put into a little tube and fired ! |
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Braggtopia!: How does the Latin, the Jazz and Classical fit with St Trinian’s uniforms and “Get Your Socks Off” ?
Jane: ….there isn’t much
relation really. Sue and I were just “having a moment”. We did actually write
another song called “Sweet Liberation” which was a protest against feminism and
“The Female Eunuch”. I agree that women should be paid the same but not with
the loss of femininity, so we wrote the song with lines like “I’m burning my
knickers instead”. It was just a funny protest. Sue and I were into the comedy
side of things as well as producing decent music.
Braggtopia!: Sue mentioned other songs you two recorded. Did they just
sit on the shelf?
Jane: Yes, there was one
called “Give Me Space” I remember we recorded. There were about six songs we
had published through John Bassett. But things got very busy for both of us.
Braggtopia!: It sounds like you have enough material there for an album.
Billy recently put together a compilation of all the old Riff Raff songs and
released that.
Jane: It’s a possibility. I
would like to talk to Billy about his ‘Jail Guitar Doors’ project and the gun
crime campaign I’m working on.
Braggtopia!: You could do a gig with him in Wormwood Scrubs dressed in
St Trinians outfits ?
Jane: No, I don’t think so…I
wouldn’t fit into the skirt these days…but I do still have the tie !
Jane Vanessa’s website can be found here:
Right click here to download an mp3 of "Get Your Socks Off" !
This article is copyright : Mark Warner - December 2007